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Frequently Asked Questions


Thank you to all who have submitted questions with regard to the service. Answers to the most relevant questions can be found below.

Q. Do you offer a free trial?

A. There is currently a 14 day free trial in operation. 

Q. What is the percentage strike rate for the Systems Advisory Service?

A. Each year varies but the Gold selections are generally between the 40% - 45% successful strike rate, the Silver selections are generally between the 15% - 25% successful strike rate and the Lay selections generally between the 80% and 85% successful strike rate range. Exceptionally, strike rates may be slightly outside of these ranges.

Q. What are the return on investment figures?

A. The Gold and Silver selections generally produce between a 10% - 20% return on investment at starting price. The Lay selections generally produce a 15% - 25% return on investment at starting price.

Q. Are the return on investment figures quoted at industry starting price or at betfair starting price?

A. All figures are quoted at industry starting prices. Using the betfair starting prices the win selection figures will generally be slightly improved on what is quoted and the lay selection figures will be slightly lower than quoted.

Q. What time period is your systems analysis based over?

A. All analysis has been conducted for well over a decade, and many thousands of selections. Such long-term analysis is essential in order to be certain of long-term success.

Q. How much can I win following your recommendations?

A. The target each year is to achieve 225pts level stakes profit at Betfair starting price. How much actual money each member of the service wins will obviously be dependent upon the amounts staked.

Q. Do members make the same amount of profit each year?

A. No. It is impossible to predict exactly how much profit will be made. Horse-racing can be successfully analysed so that profit can be made, but there are also many unknown variables which are impossible to account for completely, such as numbers of fallers, luck in running, jockey error, and often most frustratingly of all, horses beaten into second place by very small margins. All of these things vary from year to year, and impact on actual profits. However, taking the long-term view, which is the ONLY rational outlook 225pts profit per year is achievable.

Q. How quickly can I make money?

A. This is dependent upon actual results at the time. Profits tend to build slowly over time due to what Einstein defined as the eighth wonder of the world - the magic of compounding. Typically because your starting bank will be small your initial growth will be unspectacular. As your bank grows so will the relative size of your profits.

Q. How much money do I need to begin with?

A. This will vary from person to person. But before you do anything you need to set aside a betting bank which MUST be money you can afford to lose given the worst case scenario. It must also be money which you are comfortable betting with. You need to look at this with a long-term approach and realise that profits are best built up gradually over a period of time by doing the right thing.

Q. What's the longest losing run that can be expected?

A. It must be remembered that losing runs can and will happen. You need to expect and make provision for them. They are all part of a long-term strategy. The bank and staking plans I have put in place for Gold, Silver and Lay selection methods take into account possible losing runs. If a long-term strike rate was 33% for example this would not mean you would continually get one winner followed by two losers and then another winner followed by two more losers. They occur in random sequence - both winners and losers. Operating at 40% - 45% strike rate (Gold method) double-figure losing runs are not unheard of. Winning runs of half a dozen or so are equally fairly commonplace. Operating at 15% - 25% strike rate (Silver method) it is not totally unheard of to go 25+ selections without a winner. It is as well to note the next winner with SAS Silver may then be at 33/1 as this service operates on value selections. The Lay selections have experienced over thirty consecutive profitable selections in the past. Unprofitable lay selections are unlikely to go beyond three.

Q. What kind of lay prices will be encountered?

A. The vast majority (98.4%) have historically been below 8/1 at starting price, leaving only 1.6% of all Lay selections at 8/1 or bigger. Interestingly only 5 of these longer priced lays have been unsuccessful in over a decade. The average price of the lays is somewhere between 100/30 and 7/2. It's also worth noting that, in general, the majority of the lays drift in the betting, which makes it a fairly simple task to lay at shorter prices and improve profitabilty.

Q. Give me more detail about the percentages I can expect?

A. With the Gold selections you can expect between 75% -80% to be placed within the first four finishers. The very fact that you will usually get a run for your money ought to be proof enough that we are doing the right thing.

Q. What staking system do I need to use?

A. Advice on staking is given to all new members upon becoming a full member.

Q. It sounds like I'll have to use big stakes to make a lot of money?

A. A long-term view is necessary. I encourage low-level staking initially until confidence is built up. Using the staking strategy I send to all new subscribers stakes can be built up gradually over time to reasonable levels, from which very respectable sums of money can be won.

Q. Is there any way to increase my profit with the systems selections?

A. There is. In general many win selections are very well supported in the betting market and many lay selections drift in the market. All serious players realise obtaining the correct price is key to maximising profit. It doesn't work every time but more often than not things will work out more in your favour by not simply relying blindly on starting price. The betting exchanges are particularly useful, especially so with longer priced selections, and the new betfair starting price usually outperforms industry starting price. Improved performance is also easily achievable by obtaining better prices in the live betting market, and betting in-running can offer tremendous rewards on the right type of horse. In the long-term it's possible to make about half a point extra on top of starting price per winning selection, which as I'm sure you'll understand can make a tremendous difference. Do not simply rely on starting price. Those days are long gone.

Q. Your service sounds good, can you guarantee I won't lose?

A. No I can't guarantee you won't lose. Losing is more likely in the short term of course than it is in the long term. In fact there are always short-term periods when we do lose. Not every month can be profitable. Some people (usually new to the service) get cold feet when this happens and leave the service probably blaming everything else but themselves. Like most things in life those who stick with things tend to get the results. Successful betting is not about treating each selection in isolation, but as part of a grand design. The facts are there will be losing months and there will be winning months. Also some years will be more profitable than others, but if the systems continue to perform in the future as they have in the past (highly probable) the long-term trend will most definitely be up.

Q. Why do you use a system?

A. A properly developed system can be relied upon to reproduce results with some degree of certainty, (please note: most systems are NOT well researched and are worthless). Also a well researched system takes all the emotion out of the selection process which is often the rock upon which many punters founder. Many of the members of this service prefer the simplicity of just having reliable selections to follow without having to trawl through endless information each day coming up with their own selections.

Q. Can I become a millionaire with these selections.

A. No you can't. It is not wise to fall for the claims made by the unscrupulous. Listen, winning at horseracing is tough because the bookmakers odds are against you. Turning these odds around in your favour takes some doing but it can be achieved by following sound advice with a grounding in science, and by having a disciplined approach. I can promise you miracles will not happen at this sport - not EVER! But you can make steady long-term gains by having a realistic sensible attitude towards it.

Q. What can I expect if I become a member of one of your services?

A. Some days there are no selections, other days there may be as many as six or more. But more likely there will be one, two or three for each service. You can expect to make profits in the region of 10%-20% at starting price in the long-term. This could possibly be increased to 25%+ by obtaining better prices such as the Betfair starting price. When you consider that by betting horses randomly, or by following losing tipsters, you could expect to make a loss of around 25%-30% you can see this is no mean achievement.

Q. Your profit projections don't seem very high. Other services promise much more?

A. It's unlikely they're telling the truth. In my experience, and from listening to what people tell me, there are basically two things people want from a tipping service. Firstly they want a service which can make a realistic profit without resorting to unneccesary and ridiculous hype. Secondly they just want to belong to a service which is genuine and tells things as they are, for better or for worse. When you think about it little else matters. At my present state of enlightenment the figures I have quoted are about all that can be achieved at the present time though I am continually working on refinements. If you do nothing else my advice would be to totally ignore claims of any service that you will make 50%-100%+ betting horses. If you still doubt what I say please do join them. When what they say turns out to be untrue, as it will, please remember you heard it here first and get back to me. I'll still be here, and assuming there are still places available (not always the case) I'll hopefully start to make you some realistic money.

Q. What does the future hold? Will the service improve?

A. It absolutely will. As previously mentioned I am continually working on gentle improvements and refinements to the service for the benefit of all.

Q. Can I bet your win selections as multiple bets or forecasts?

A. You can bet them any way you wish. But the selections are not advised this way. They are advised mainly as single win bets. Betting them any other way i.e doubles/trebles/forecasts is obviously much riskier, as indeed it ought to be because the returns would be that much greater. On 20th June 2009 the Silver selection method predicted two selections in the same race. Both selections were at 14/1. They finished 1st and 2nd. The computer straight forecast paid £194.80

Q. Can I bet your bigger priced selections each way?

A. Again you can if you wish. It is largely a question of temperament. By betting in this way you will obtain a considerably higher strike rate, but may have to sacrifice a degree of profit in the long-term. As long as you can demonstrate patience and stick rigidly to a proper staking plan (as I explain to all my members) you're probably best advised to bet to win, but I leave this up to the individual.

Q. How do you advise selections each day?

A. Selections are sent by email. Selections can also be sent by text message if requested. Just simply let me know. Platinum service members can also retrieve each days selections from the members only webpage.

Q. How much time do I need to spend each day on this?

A. Between five and ten minutes a day is reasonable. Some members choose to conduct all their business when the day's message is delivered to them and then get on with their day. Others prefer to follow the racing throughout the day. This is a service where all the work is done for you. Only minimal effort is required on your part.

Q. What time are selections made available?

A. Anytime between 9am and noon.

Q. I sometimes receive the daily email late?

A. This does occasionally occur. Email is not 100% failsafe as a means of delivery and there are occasional technical issues beyond anyones control. Some email addresses such as aol and hotmail are notorious for presenting problems. It is always best to use your main outlook express email address or the one you use most regularly, and to make sure admin@bethorsestowin.co.uk is added to your address book. If you do ever experience problems with late delivery always please let me know. Delivery can also be sent to your mobile phone via text message at no cost (not permitted during any free trial). There is also a members only page on the website giving the days details (Platinum service only).

Q. I simply don't believe it's possible to make money betting horses?

A. It is tough to beat the book let no one declare otherwise. This is why only a very small percentage of people are able to do it. The rest lose........some lose heavily. This has always been the case and always will be. To beat the book and make money requires extreme hard-work and analysis, or ultra-reliable inside information. Both of these things are understandably beyond the grasp of most of the betting public. To benefit you need access to a service which can provide this edge over time, and retain an open-mind.

Q. What makes your service so different to any other?

A. I prefer to simply go about the business in my own understated way. I don't promise miracles. I don't brag about winners, nor cry over losers. This is all part of the deal. I simply deliver realistic profits based upon proper groundwork. Whether an individual decides he wants a piece of the action is left entirely up to the individual. People have freedom of choice. Virtually every other service I have ever come across tends to treat people as idiots by making completely undeliverable and outright fabricated claims, and then attempts to pressgang people into subscribing to their over-hyped service by using high pressure sales tactics. Not my style I'm afraid! You have to make your own choices in life. It's always best to make the right ones.

Q. Do I need any special qualities to make this work for me?

A. Yes......and no! No, in that there is absolutely nothing stopping absolutely anyone reading this right now from making the next 12 months the most profitable and enjoyable 12 months of their life. Yes, in that you need patience, discipline and belief. Patience because things tend not to happen quickly, discipline to follow the information exactly to the letter, and belief that not every single opportunity in this world is designed to be a scam. Belief that it is possible to make realistic money betting horses. Belief in you. Belief in me. More people than you would think lack these qualities, and develop legs of jelly at just the briefest of losing runs, and then dash off emails to me telling me that my system is hopeless on the evidence of just a handful of results.....(whereas I have access to thousands of results!!) Needless to say such emails are very rarely responded to. They consequently then give up barely before they've even started. This is utter madness. But if you possess patience, discipline and belief you will NOT be disappointed.

Q. I prefer to back my own opinion?

A. I have no problem with this and applaud it. Assuming you are one of the 2% minority who it is suggested win money in the long-term you have my very best wishes. However the statistics suggest the other 98%+ of people are having a very tough time of things. If you fall into this category, and you'd like to start winning money instead of losing it this may be for you.

Q. OK I know you're right. I possess patience, discipline and belief. I also want to improve my life, and enjoy my racing more. So count me in. What do I need to do?

A. It's simplicity itself. Simply click here to go to the subscription page to begin your free trial.